"CB" (jrcb)
05/08/2020 at 01:54 • Filed to: And yet he's still a massive halo fanboy
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"CB" (jrcb)
05/08/2020 at 01:54 • Filed to: And yet he's still a massive halo fanboy | 0
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Halo:CE doesn't hold up as good as you may think it does. Also, nearly twenty years on, The Library is one of the worst levels in any video game in terms of needless frustration and poor level design. Everything past that point is also just a previous level backwards.
facw
> CB
05/08/2020 at 02:09 |
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Lots of good stuff in Halo, but yeah The Library was not really playing to the game’s strengths...
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CB
> facw
05/08/2020 at 02:14 |
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We were occasionally blessed by the Shotgun Fairy, who brought us shotgun ammo.
Often, the Shotgun Fairy was displeased, so we did a lot of checkpoint reloading.
PS9
> CB
05/08/2020 at 02:23 |
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The throwaway weapon design is dumb. Super dumb. Why would aliens, us, or ANYONE leave
weapons out in the battlefield the enemy can find and then use? Why can’t Mr. Mega Human just carry more ammo? He can wear a buick as a battlesuit but not carry more shells? The most frustrating
thing about this game’s very good shotgun is knowing at some point you will be forced to throw it away.
The enemy are supposed to be technologically advanced aliens, but their weapons are only par against ours, which means they suck. How did we ever lose to them?
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CB
> PS9
05/08/2020 at 02:31 |
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Because they took the "nuke from orbit" approach.
Nick Has an Exocet
> CB
05/08/2020 at 02:32 |
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I agree. I’ve been playing though a couple checkpoints at a time every couple of days. The number of times you come around a corner and they’ve given the flood rocket launches for no reason really makes it even worse. The library is just a maze of copy paste corridors .
Having said that, taken in period context, it was great. Most people had never seen anything like it. It’s kind of the Corvette of games. The best Corvette is almost always the newest one. When you go back, it’s hard to really appreciate it as a whole package because it brought [x] to the masses and no everyone does [x] so no big deal. I remember Halo 2 being a revelation because of the multiplayer but there’s no way that it would hold a candle to Overwatch or any of the other modern games. Halo 3/4 may be a little difference since those stepped up the story arch but meh. I’m still going to play through all of them as they come out in the MCC, but it’s kind of like driving all the generations of Corvette back to back.
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CB
> Nick Has an Exocet
05/08/2020 at 02:35 |
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Well said.
Rocket flood are also the worst.
Exage03040 @ opposite-lock.com
> CB
05/08/2020 at 03:19 |
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All of Halo CE levels had varying degrees of repetition but T
he Library was just boring after dealing with the discovery of flood the level before.
I
t just felt like nothing was
happening
;
343 just muttering away unlocking
the occasional
thing
and flood spawning
around corners, alleys
and out of vents. Play the first 3
min then repeat
it 10
x again.
Nauraushaun
> CB
05/08/2020 at 05:28 |
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I don’t mind the backwards levels. There’s new flood enemies and they’re fighting the covenant, and you often take different routes with different objects around. And it’s a smart way of using assets and stuff, allowing you to spend dev time and disk space elsewhere!
I fucking love that game. The first one only.
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Nauraushaun
> PS9
05/08/2020 at 05:33 |
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Counter point:
It’s part of level design! If you just always carried the best weapons into any level it wouldn’t be as exciting. They force you to mix it up for certain scenarios.
Their weapons are better against humans but we normally aren’t fighting humans. They don’t need reloads, their shots track targets, you can do a charged pistol shot and the needler can be very effective when used right. Their grenades stick. Their weapons are better against the flood too, except the shotgun. But nobody expected to fight the flood.
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Nauraushaun
> facw
05/08/2020 at 05:33 |
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Probably right
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PS9
> Nauraushaun
05/08/2020 at 07:23 |
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If you just always carried the best weapons into any level it wouldn’t be as exciting.
Objectively wrong.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> CB
05/08/2020 at 08:31 |
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Speaking of old ass games I started playing Fable last night. For the first time . This is the longest freaking tutorial I’ve ever played.
Cash Rewards
> CB
05/08/2020 at 08:59 |
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That games release date is closer to the original Mario brothers on NES than to current day. I bet it holds up just fine in that context
Wallaby
> CB
05/08/2020 at 09:01 |
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I just played through The Library with a friend and yeah, that level has not aged well. It’s about 3 times longer than it needs to be because it’s the exact same corridors and rooms copy pasted over and over again for no reason. It’s not even fun by the end, it’s just frustrating.
user314
> CB
05/08/2020 at 09:25 |
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CobraJoe
> PS9
05/08/2020 at 09:44 |
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The enemy are supposed to be technologically advanced aliens, but their weapons are only par against ours, which means they suck. How did we ever lose to them?
Just to be That Nerd (TM), the books do a great job of explaining it.
Basically, they have impressive tech , and overwhelming numbers, a willingness to sacrifice themselves , so the average dude didn’t really stand a chance. It took a group of Spartans IIs (Who were specially selected and kidnapped as children , then trained, and genetically modified in a program with I believe a 8 0% mortality rate, and then given insane power armor that normal people couldn’t use ) to actually start winning some battles. Those battles allowed for some stolen tech that humans learned from and improved up on to help fight back even more. (The Spartan shields were reverse engineered from a jackal’s shield).
If you’re into sci-fi books at all, the first few in the halo universe a pretty good.
If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
> CB
05/08/2020 at 14:49 |
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Here, try this version:
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Nauraushaun
> PS9
05/09/2020 at 18:27 |
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Haha, a different game. Horses for courses ;)